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  1. QUOTE (Punky @ Dec 22 2010, 05:07 PM) The new Innofader Pro has a DJM-400 compatible version. Actually there is a special "Innofader DJM-400" which works with this. Elliot
  2. QUOTE (DSC @ Mar 25 2011, 04:22 PM) I plan on switching out the original fader with the Innofader. I will post pics and let you know how it goes. Thank you Elliot for all of your help so far. Man this would be awesome! From what I gather the spacing might be too tight, and an Innobender solution like what we did for the DJM-400 might be in order here...
  3. QUOTE (Gara @ Feb 7 2011, 03:41 PM) Can I install the Innofader Pro in my VMC002Xlu?? Yes.
  4. QUOTE (Antonio @ Jan 30 2011, 08:51 AM) hello everybody I'm wondering if anyone has instructions for installing the innofader in stanton M207 Yes it is possible, but you need to bend the stem to make it fit. If you are patient, we are working on a new tooled solution for this so that you don't need to bend the stem. Elliot ADMIN UPDATE 1/1/2012 the new Innobender will work for this! Elliot
  5. Yes it can. Just make sure you set the Innofader Pro curve in the center so you get the full range of crossfader output.
  6. This is really awesome! Thanks so much for posting this!
  7. Just in case you shorted out the mixer while installing the Innofader, you'll need to replace a fuse. These 3 pictures help you find it: Replace the fuse shown here: My recommendation is that you use replace this part with a .35A 16V PTC resistor available from Digi-Key. We also have limited stock on these and can send them to you free of charge.
  8. QUOTE (djdoofy @ Jan 24 2011, 09:28 PM) My mixer utilizes the Y set of curves, does that mean I take the black tab off the two prongs on my innofader pro? Do I touch it all?? Yes you just remove this jumper.
  9. QUOTE (djdoofy @ Jan 24 2011, 01:51 AM) I over-lubed my innofader pro, is there a way to open the innofader to clean up the excess lube? The fader is beginning to feel quite sticky. Thanks, DJDOOFY Yes use the mini-screwdriver to pry open the 6 tabs, 3 on each side. Be careful and bend gradually. Then use pliers to straighten out the pins. Elliot
  10. QUOTE (DJAv3 @ Dec 22 2010, 08:39 PM) The fader doesn't have a function when plugged in, the music keeps playing, not affected by the fader. I'm using the Innofader Pro with the Non VCA adapter board. It seems like I'm getting power from the soldered part, yet the fader doesn't work. Please Help - http://s1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd482/DJAv3/ I've responded by email to make arrangements to get this fixed. Elliot
  11. This modification is for all versions of the Allen and Heath Xone:62 mixer. Please do not do this modification on any other mixers unless there is a specific instruction to do so. For the Innofader Pro and Pro2 it is necessary to do this because the Xone:62 power supply to the crossfader is only 2.5 volts. The Innofader VCA adapter reduces this voltage to 1.9 volts, and the modification boosts it back to 2.3 volts which is enough to make the Innofader work.   INNOFADER PRO2 INSTRUCTIONS Please click on this link to view the instructions: https://www.innofader.com/images/Xone%2062%20mod/Xone_62_InnoPro2%20Rev.%202.jpg   INNOFADER PRO INSTRUCTIONS First take the 2 wire cable included with the Innofader pro with the smaller 2.0mm spacing between the pins and plug it into the middle 2 pins of J43 as such: Then remove the red wires on both the 5 pin cable which plugs into J5 on the Innofader Pro body and on the 2 wire cable. Take these two wires and swap them, and the result will look like this: Finish the installation by plugging the A&H crossfader cable into J40 and insulating the adapters as shown in the standard instructions for the Innofader Pro. Just make sure to keep the wiring modification as shown here.
  12. Dr. G: Could you take a picture of the connector used on this mixer? This would give some clue on whether it can be hooked up to the Innofader as is or some modification is needed. Thanks. Elliot
  13. Both the original Innofader and Innofader PNP have a reverse protection circuit which might be the source of bleeding on some mixers. The below mod essentially bypasses this protection circuit. In addition the original Innofader and Innofader PNP have a built-in 5 volt regulator. Due to tolerances, if the Innofader 5V regulator output is slightly low and the mixer 5V regulator output is slightly high, the sound may not cut off on the sound controlled by the 5V. WARNING: This modification can only be done for mixers which have power supplies which are under 5.25V otherwise it might cause permanent damage to the Innofader! Specifically this modification is intended for the Vestax PMC-08, Rane Empath, Denon DN-X1500, and Ecler EVO4 which seem to require it. If you move the Innofader to another mixer please make sure to return the Innofader back to its original wiring. Before you do the modification, make sure there is some dead space on the fader. Set the Innofader to the factory default as shown here. Now if there is still bleeding, then try the below mod. ***NOTE: Before you do this mod, make 100% sure that the green LED lights up when testing the connector. Otherwise you may cause permanent damage to the Innofader. Mod as follows for Innofader PNP (see below for original Innofader): First remove the 4 pin cable from the Innofader PNP. Remove the grey wire from the connector on the 4 pin cable used above. Find another cable included with the Innofader PNP and remove all 4 pins from the small 4 pin connector which is the same size. Insert the grey wire into the second pin, blue wire into the third pin. Plug the blue/grey cable connector into the 5 pin socket on the Innofader PNP. Make sure the leftmost pin on the 5 pin socket is exposed as shown. Plug the original cable with yellow & green wires back into the original socket. Mod as follows for original Innofader: First remove the 8 pin cable from the Innofader. On the 8 pin cable, remove the grey wire from the connector. Remove a 5 pin connector from on of the line fader cables. The picture below shows removal of one wire. All 3 should be removed. Insert the grey wire into the second to last connector position. Plug the blue wire into the middle of the 5 pin connector and then plug the 5 pin connector into the Innofader.
  14. QUOTE (DrG @ Oct 23 2010, 12:06 PM) I know on the compatibility link it says the 05 mixer is compatible with the Innofader. I was wondering however if the the 05ProIV is any different and if it is still compatible, will the faders still have MIDI functionality? Regards, DrG The issue isn't MIDI functionality. Apparently the optical (Samurai "D" series) and 05ProIV magnetic fader series have completely different wiring than the standard connectors on the Innofader. There should be a way to make them work though.
  15. Updated 9/17/2015   For the Innofader Pro2, simply do the cable connections as shown in Figure 10 here. Otherwise the instructions for assembling and disassembling the mixer are the same as for the Innofader Pro.   This is a standard installation for the Innofader Pro. Please check the Vestax VMC series installation drawing for the Innofader Pro: Remove the 2 side brackets and faceplate (4 screws, 2 each side) and bottom cover (8 screws, 2 lower left, 2 lower right, and 4 bottom). Remove the crossfader. Look at the bottom of unit and locate the 2 pin connector going to the corner of the audio and power PC board. ***NOTE: Make sure you remember to include the insulating tube as shown here on a different mixer: Now for the cable located above, plug it into J13 on the Non-VCA adapter board, and then plug the 2 wire cable included with the Innofader kit both into J12 on the non-VCA adapter board and into the Vestax connector located above. Then connect the 5 wire cable from the non-VCA output adapter board to J5 on the Innofader, connect the 8 wire Innofader cable into J38 on the non-VCA adapter board, and plug the Vestax crossfader connector into the connector marked "Vestax" on the non-VCA adapter. Note there is a mini switch on the non-VCA adapter board with an "ON" and a "1" position. Make sure it is set to the "ON" position for proper crossfader operation. As mentioned above, don't forget to include the insulating tube. The pictures are shown without the tube to illustrate the wiring. For mounting the Innofader, make sure you use the adapter plate included with the Innofader kit, and make sure the label is facing the front of the unit. Before putting the bottom cover back together make sure that the insulator card is covering the screw holes to prevent the screws from shorting out. Reassemble the mixer bottom cover 4 short round head screws on the bottom. Flip the mixer over and make sure that the small round pads surrounding the phono/line switches are installed. They probably fell off when you were working on the mixer. Use the 4 medium round head screws to finish assembling the bottom cover to the rest of the mixer. Use the 4 flathead screws to mount the rack mount ears and faceplate together. The rack mount ears go outside of the faceplate. NOTE: If you don't see the mounting holes, swap the 2 rack mount ears. Place the knob on and you're done!
  16. 3/18/2016 edit: Now includes both Innofader Pro2 and Innofader Pro instructions:   INNOFADER PRO2 INSTRUCTIONS:     First locate the 2 wire cable in the Innofader Pro2 box. One wire is red and the other is black. Take one end of the cable, clip off the 2 pin connector, and strip the wire about 1/16", just enough so you can solder it. Solder the red wire to pin 8 of IC501...this is the +15V DC supply for the fader. Solder the black wire to pin 5 of IC501...this is the GND or ground reference for the DC supply.     Now locate adapter (13) which works for the SH-DJ1200. You will need to peel off the back so you can solder wires to the adapter. Please reorder the crossfader wires and solder to the connector as indicated in the below picture. Make sure pins 4 and 5 are shorted together, and don't forget to put the label back on when you are done!     Once you have completed the installation, it should look like this:       Special thanks to Ash Mukerjea for providing the following pictures:                             INNOFADER PRO INSTRUCTIONS:   Special thanks to Audey Bautista for contributing the images! Do the wiring as shown here. You will need a soldering iron because this mixer doesn't have any power cables available in the crossfader section. At the same time, it's easiest to just connect the crossfader cables by soldering them to the non-VCA adapter board. Don't worry about the 2 unconnected wires because they are not used for the SH-DJ1200. As far as the mechanical mounting, first drill two holes in the crossfader plate. Use a 5mm drill bit and spacing the holes 65mm apart with the holes symmetrical about the center. When you use the drill bit, only push the bit down until you get a 3mm diameter hole on the bottom. This way the Innofader Pro can easily mount using the included screws. Now when mounting the Innofader place the bracket above the mixer body rather than below so the Innofader stem has enough height. NOTE: We have customer feedback that the Innofader in the below picture will operate in reverse. Please install the Innofader with the label facing the rear of the unit instead of the front of the unit to make the Innofader operate normally. When you're all done it looks like this:
  17. All of the listed mixers use the same Numark crossfader with an 8 pin connector. It's nice that Numark standardized on this for many of their older DM series mixers and newer M series mixers. ? EDIT 9/23/2015 this is a standard installation for the Innofader Pro2 using adapter (15). Please see below for the wiring of the 3 pin power cable. If you are doing a soldering mod, the order of the power wires does make a difference. No damage will result from reversal, but the channel audio will have much more headroom if the wires are in the correct order. If you can take pics for us showing your installation, please email us your pics. ? INNOFADER PRO2 PICS The key with these pics is to identify the flat side of the cable and the bumpy side of the cable. If you do this first you should easily be able to identify the correct way to hook up the cables. ? The wiring is all done by splicing cables and hand twisting. Soldering is helpful for reliability but not required. ? NUMARK M2 ? Special thanks to @LORD.VERM for the following pictures?https://linktr.ee/LORDVERM. ? OLDER M2 MIXER POWER This is for older Numark mixers with longer flat cables. If your M2 mixer is a newer version and does not look like the pictures immediately below here, please skip down to "NEWER M2 MIXER POWER" Please trace through the cables and make sure they are hooked up in the correct order as shown below. If the cables are reversed, the mixer will stop working and make a buzzing sound! ALSO: make sure the bumpy side of the 3 wire cable is facing up so that your mod matches the picture! If the smooth side is facing up, then make sure you flip over the cable to match the picture! ? ? Make sure to cover all of the wires separately with electrical tape. This is what the cables look like once tape is put on (thanks to DJ AMAZIN): ? ? ? Additional pics from Marius Perey. Thanks! ? ? NEWER M2 MIXER POWER First locate the 3 pin large and 2 pin small cables. For the 3 pin large cable, you will need to carefully remove all 3 wires from one of the connectors. The below picture just shows one of the wires being removed. For the 2 pin small cable, you will need to carefully remove the black wire from?both?of the connectors. The below picture shows the black wire being removed from just one of the connectors Please connect the 8 pin crossfader cable from the mixer to adapter (15) as shown in the below picture. Also connect the 8 pin cable on the Numark Pro2 to the crossfader with the C2 cable in series to reduce noise as shown here: https://www.innofader.com/installations.php?id=84&pid=21 In addition, at the minimum please connect as shown in the "ADAPTER POWER HOOKUP" section. This means soldering 3 wires from the free end of the 3 pin cable you prepared to the PC board in the order as shown, and then plugging?into J39. for the free connector, please plug it into J41 to prevent it from touching other parts and short circuiting. Once this is done, you will see that the Innofader Pro2 works, but the Innofader Pro2 will only have an output curve as determined by the CURVE dial. In order to use the Numark M2 built-in switch to do two different curve settings (mix and sharp), please also add the steps marked "EXTERNAL CURVE CONTROL". These essentially rewire the switch on the M2 directly to the Innofader Pro2 to control the curve settings. Make sure to follow the steps "SOLDER WIRE", "ADD 2 WIRES", and "CUT 2 TRACES". Once you have soldered the red wire, please plug the red wire into the first pin of the 5 pin connector on the main Innofader Pro2 piece. More details in the pictures below: ? For the crossfader settings, if you do the EXTERNAL CURVE CONTROL setting, the setting on the crossfader should be in the middle as shown in the below picture. You can adjust it slightly from this position depending on the curve setting you want for a mix curve. The M2 Curve switch will short out the CURVE dial signal so that the Innofader Pro2 works for cutting. ? NUMARK M3 MIXER POWER Please add a 3 wire cable going to adapter (15) to supply power as shown below. Also connect the crossfader cable to the matching connector on adapter (15) ? NUMARK M4 - OLDER MIXERS (no SMD) The following picture shows the wiring for the Numark M4 mixer. The crossfader connector will plug right into J40 on adapter (15) same as shown for the M2 above. For the power cable, simply solder to the PC board as shown on the below picture.? Thanks to Jeff Delvalle from Deltronics for helping me with this! ? ? NUMARK M4 - NEWER MIXERS (all SMD) The following picture shows the wiring for the Numark M4 mixer power supply. For one red wire, make sure it is insulated because you will leave it disconnected. Then solder two other wires to the 7815 IC near the power switch at the back of the mixer as shown below. Otherwise attach the other two connectors as normal, one going to the M4 crossfader cable, and the other going to the Innofader Pro2 crossfader cable. ? LEGACY INNOFADER PRO INSTRUCTIONS ? Note this is a standard installation for the Innofader Pro. Please check the Numark M series installation drawing for the Innofader Pro: First locate the 3 wire connector on the audio and power supply PC board. In the below picture my finger points to that connector: If you can't find that connector, you will need to modify the 3 wire cable included in the Innofader Pro kit and solder it as shown below. Note if you do this mod you will only need to hook up to either J36 or J37 but not both. This is what it looks like on the M3: Use the non-VCA adapter board adapter from the Innofader Pro kit. ***NOTE to save time, do the installation with the insulated tubing here. The below just illustrates all of the connections. Referring to the below drawing: Disconnect cable A from the power PC board and plug it into J36 on the adapter Plug cable B into both J37 on the adapter and the 3 pin socket where cable A was disconnected Plug cable C into J5 on the Innofader Pro Plug cable D into J38 on the adapter Plug cable E into J25 on the adapter labeled "NUMARK" Set the mini red switch to the "1" position. Use the insulated tubing to cover the non-VCA adapter board. Make sure cables C and D come out one end and A, B, and E come out the other end. You can trim the insulated tubing for easier installation; just make sure that the PC board exposed metal parts are covered. Use 6 self-adhesive washers on each side of the crossfader mounting plate to increase the height. Install the Innofader wth the label facing the rear. Replace the faceplate and bottom cover and you're done!
  18. Note the below instructions show the Innofader Pro. With the Innofader Pro2, no modifications are required. For the electrical connections please see here.   The Numark M1 and M1USB modifications are definitely doable and require no soldering, wire cutting, or hole drilling. The mixer fit is excellent and very comfortable. The first step is to remove the cover. Leave the faceplate intact because it'll make the installation a lot easier. To remove the cover, remove the 3 screws on each side, 2 screws in front, and 1 screw on the bottom. The cover will pop right off. Also remove the crossfader. Now you'll need to modify the Numark power cable and integrate it with the smaller 2 wire cable included with the Innofader. Plug both 2 pin connectors into the VCA adapter board. Also plug in the additional wide 2 wire cable included with the Innofader kit. Set the "SOURCE: EXT INT" switch to "EXT". When everything is plugged in cover everything with the insulator tube. Make sure PC boards don't short out by following the picture. Find the A&H Xone:22 cable in the Innofader kit and remove the 8 pin connector. Now you'll need to modify the Numark Crossfader cable. The original looks like this: Pull all 5 wires out of this connector. Lift the mini-tabs on the wires up so they can fit securely in the 8 pin connector. Plug the crossfader wires into the 8 pin connector. The original Numark wires ordered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 plug into the 8 pin connector slots 1, 2, 3, 8, 7 in that order. Make sure you push the wires all the way into the connector while plugging it in for a good connection. Plug the wide 2 pin connector into the two 3 pin connectors on the Non-VCA Adapter board as shown here. Make sure that the small red switch is in the "ON" position (picture below this one will show this more clearly): The overall wiring is connected like this. Note this for reference only; when you put the insulator tubes on it will look different. Make sure the Innofader cables also have an insulator tube. Now you have 2 tubes installed. Apply 2 self-adhesive washers to each side of the Innofader and install with the label facing the rear of the unit. Put the crossfader back on using 6mm screws from the mixer and 8mm screws from the Innofader kit. Now you're done!
  19. Based on numerous customer requests, I have gone through quite a bit of effort to make the Innofader Pro compatible with the Xone:22. But even so, it will require a bit of effor on your part. First, you'll need a torx screwdriver with a bit approximately 2mm across. It's round with 6 points on the sides evenly spaced. Without this tools you will probably end up stripping the screws and/or scratching the faceplate so do yourself a favor and use these tools! There's a picture of it on the left To disassemble the unit, first remove the 3 screws on the rear panel on the line/phono and send/return RCA jacks. Then remove all of the faceplate screws except for the 4 screws holding the 2 channel faders. The cover than can be popped up a few inches. Reach in and remove the 4 pin cable connection to the front MIC PC board. Then lift the front panel up, slide it back, and pop it open. Be careful not to pull on the green ground wires. If you encounter resistance from them, adjust the panel until it pops open freely. If you've loosened the crossfader properly it should come off as such: Now electronically you'll need to do a little wiring modification. Here's what the original wiring looks like: We've included the crossfader cable already to make this easier, but since the Innofader Pro requires power from the mixer, this requires you to modify the existing power cable. The below picture shows the red and black cable included in the Innofader kit and the white cable used in the Xone:22: You'll need to modify wires by pulling them out of the socket pins Combine the cables into a single cable as follows: Note A1, B1, C1, and D1 wires are from the Xone:22 cable, and B2, C2, and D2 wires are from the Innofader Pro kit. So the cable is built as follows: 1) Remove B1, C1, and D1 wires from one of the 4 pin sockets of the Xone:22 cable 2) Remove B2, C2, and D2 wires from one of the 3 pin sockets of the Innofader 3 wire cable 3) Place the B1, C1, and D1 wires into the Innofader 3 wire cable plug which had wires removed in step 2 4) Place the B2, C2, and D2 wires into the Xone:22 cable plug which had wires removed in step 1   Here's how all of the wires will hook up inside the unit. Don't hook them up, just look at this and make sure you understand it.   ***For the Innofader Pro2, ignore step D. Simply connect one end of adapter (15) to the Innofader Pro2 as shown in C, and route A and B cables through adapter (15). Then skip to Innofader Pro2 continue here.   A shows the cable you just modified ***Make 100% sure that you plug the connector with 1 white, 2 red, and 1 black wire into the microphone board, and the end with 4 white wires into the long center PC board which has the socket for the crossfader cable. B is the Xone:22 crossfader cable for the Innofader included in the Innofader Pro kit C and D are cables that go to and from the Innofader and the non-VCA output adapter PC board. There's a small switch marked "ON 1" on the non-VCA adapter board. Either position will work fine. Make sure the insulater has 2 self-adhesive washers on each side for the correct height. Start reassembling by connecting the Innofader to the adapter boards with the insulating tube as such: Screw in the Innofader with the label facing the rear using the insulated slotted screws from the Innofader Pro kit. Plug in all of the connectors except the one with the black, red, red, and white wires which will go to the microphone PC board later. . Make sure the adapter board is tucked in neatly.   Innofader Pro2 continue here Now connect the final remaining 4 wire connector into the microphone PC board Screw everything back together and you're done!
  20. QUOTE (djruggedone @ Oct 13 2010, 02:12 PM) Hi where in the site I can register the warranty for the Innofader ??? Also I damage the fader by trying to fix a slight bleed of removing the grey wire and possibly damaging it. To top it all off lost the receipt and read on the site it does not cover it. I may have to buy a new innofader(which sucks) and registering it for warranty for now on. Info would be help. Thanks Please check your email I'll get it fixed for you. Elliot
  21. QUOTE (djruggedone @ Aug 5 2010, 06:01 AM) Update: So I decided to buy the Innofader for the crossfader and after almost couple of hours to mod also adjusting the curve for cutting....it is an success !!!! and it was easy to mod. Thanks Elliot and the staff at Audio Innovate for a wonderful crossfader and big up to Tony Skratchere for introducing me to it and making me a believer. Thanks !! Good to hear everything is working right! Thanks to Tony Skratchere too So you don't mind the crossfader being in permanent cut mode?
  22. The DN-X900 is just a bit too tight for the Innofader to fit.
  23. QUOTE (djruggedone @ Jul 13 2010, 05:22 PM) Thanks for the info. The Line Fader mod looks a little tricky & complicated but hope I don't mess it up. Will let you know how it goes. It is a bit complicated and not something I recommend unless you're really comfortable with electronics.
  24. QUOTE (djruggedone @ Jul 13 2010, 04:24 AM) Hey guys I'm looking forward of buying the innofader for the crossfader and line fader(possible) so I was wondering is it easy to mod the fader and also are there pics to view of the process of putting the innofader on the mixer. It would be appreciated and don't want to mess it up. Looking forward to it and thanks ! https://www.innofader.com/fitting.php#nonvca
  25. QUOTE (appsii @ Jul 11 2010, 05:24 AM) installed an innofader into a stanton SA.3 have tried adjusting curve and cut in values but am struggling to get a setting that cuts in and out perfectly. most settings are still letting small amount of sound through when closed and not getting sharp cuts. would this be due to mixer? would the curve mixer that is built in be causing a problem? Try adding a small amount of tension to the Innofader. This will help ground the Innofader better. If you are still having issues you can try the following mod: http://www.audioinnovate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=99
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